TJ full cage/windshield ?

SoonerJeepMan · 10-23-2009, 02:52 PM

I have a full cage, tied into the frame....

it also is connected to the windshield at the top (like the original roll bar). I've seen some jeeps with full cage that are not connected to the windshield.

Wondering if not having the it connected will cause windshield rattle with the top on or off and windshield up? It would be beneficial if windshield was down when wheelin and taking 4 extra bolts out is a PITA...but doable if needed...

any experience with this?

YredJ · 10-23-2009, 03:08 PM

I dont have a problem on my yj, and I only have one bolt in either side of the windsheild. I dosent rattle at all even when going down the highway.

SoonerJeepMan · 10-23-2009, 03:27 PM

ok, you talking on the side hinges by the mirrors (if ya have some)?

Schvin · 10-23-2009, 03:57 PM

YJ's windshields don't have side bolts, they bolt on on the inside, like the CJ's, just that the holes don't line up perfectly, if I remember correctly.

jeepinTY · 10-23-2009, 04:05 PM

He is talking about where the original cage attaches to the top of the windshield. I have seen them with or without but unsure of how it does without. I am hoping to not have to brace mine.

hurleygo3 · 10-23-2009, 04:24 PM

My windshield is not connected to the cage. It just has the one bolt on each hinge holding it. Its solid and doesn't rattle.

Dookey · 10-23-2009, 04:38 PM

It shouldn't rattle at all. It is completely sitting on a rubber gasket. If it rattles... you have problems.

froggytj · 10-27-2009, 10:42 AM

I have a full cage not attatched to windshield and have had no problems with windshield rattle.

mean green · 10-27-2009, 11:28 AM

No probs either.

ioman2 · 11-05-2009, 07:50 AM

if it rattles, just put a rag or an old glove in there to stop it.

dirtyboots · 11-05-2009, 10:54 AM

OR Fab ties their A pillar cage into the top of the windshield with a tab coming off of the cage. If it bothered you check out the OR Fab and tack in a couple of tabs to support the top of the windshield off of your cage. There are probably other shops that do the same thing.

tjdriver · 11-06-2009, 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirtyboots

OR Fab ties their A pillar cage into the top of the windshield with a tab coming off of the cage. If it bothered you check out the OR Fab and tack in a couple of tabs to support the top of the windshield off of your cage. There are probably other shops that do the same thing.

i have the or fab trail cage on my heep. the windshield tie in works great with my soft and hard tops and is super easy to disconnect to let the windshield down.

brownbagg · 11-06-2009, 09:10 AM

think of all those CJ that did not have roll bar connection, they only had the two hand bolts, they did not rattle.

kasbiker38 · 11-06-2009, 05:45 PM

my cage is not connected in my yj and i have no rattles.

furblog · 11-07-2009, 12:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoonerJeepMan

I have a full cage, tied into the frame....

it also is connected to the windshield at the top (like the original roll bar). I've seen some jeeps with full cage that are not connected to the windshield.

Wondering if not having the it connected will cause metro molded windshield seal rattle with the top on or off and windshield up? It would be beneficial if windshield was down when wheelin and taking 4 extra bolts out is a PITA...but doable if needed...

any experience with this?

Well, my friend also got the same problem (almost). What can you say about these weird rattling sounds?

rubiweeler · 11-07-2009, 03:37 PM

yep it wont rattle, mine isnt connected and doesent rattle

flatlander757 · 11-07-2009, 06:36 PM

If you have a cage going across right behind the windshield(you have a full cage so this should be the case), what if you take one or two of the footman's loop straps(used for holding the windshield down when you have it folded forward) and tie them around the footman loop on the top/middle of the windshield and around the rollcage? Just put a slight tension on it.

Just an idea

MQ79 · 11-08-2009, 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flatlander757

If you have a cage going across right behind the windshield(you have a full cage so this should be the case), what if you take one or two of the footman's loop straps(used for holding the windshield down when you have it folded forward) and tie them around the footman loop on the top/middle of the windshield and around the rollcage? Just put a slight tension on it.

Just an idea

That's all I do to keep my windshield up. Just the strap, no bolts or anything else, and it works fine.

2003_ram · 11-08-2009, 10:20 PM

My Granddad runs his TJ with one bolt on the side hinges, it's perfectly fine. It doesn't rattle. Go beat your jeep.

SoonerJeepMan · 11-09-2009, 02:23 PM

thanks folks...took the bolts out...because my frickin driver's side door would not shut...guess my windshield got tweeked sometime...ah well...ended up having to jerry rig a spacer so my door could shut...only 3 bolts to take out to have windshield down!!!

PDK · 11-09-2009, 03:18 PM

I'd like to hear some thoughts on the safety of only running the side bolts and no top windshield bolts. I've read where a few people strongly discourage losing the cage to top of windshield bolts.

SoonerJeepMan · 11-09-2009, 03:23 PM

I had one guy tell me the windshield is actually (some %, maybe 15%) of your roll bar's strength...but then I have a full tied into the frame so that should be strong enough. Not sure if the strength thing is on a factory set up or not.

My reason for running without is purely from a standpoint that IF I want the windshield down when wheeling (to keep from smashing the crap out of it on a tree) then I won't have 6 bolts to take out, now I just have 3, should be 2 on the side but I've got to adjust windshield for the door to shut well.

seems like everyone here has no problems running with the windshield tied into the roll bar.

just my 2 cents...

10-23-2009, 02:52 PM	#1
SoonerJeepMan Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Member # 104975 Location: Mission, Ks Posts: 79	TJ full cage/windshield ? I have a full cage, tied into the frame.... it also is connected to the windshield at the top (like the original roll bar). I've seen some jeeps with full cage that are not connected to the windshield. Wondering if not having the it connected will cause windshield rattle with the top on or off and windshield up? It would be beneficial if windshield was down when wheelin and taking 4 extra bolts out is a PITA...but doable if needed... any experience with this?

10-23-2009, 03:08 PM	#2
YredJ Wheeler Join Date: Mar 2009 Member # 130903 Location: Southwest MO Posts: 113	I dont have a problem on my yj, and I only have one bolt in either side of the windsheild. I dosent rattle at all even when going down the highway. __________________ STRAIGHT UP GANGSTA FAB!!! AIGHT BRUTHAS

10-23-2009, 04:24 PM	#6
hurleygo3 Poser Join Date: Oct 2006 Member # 80862 Location: not where I want to be Posts: 505	My windshield is not connected to the cage. It just has the one bolt on each hinge holding it. Its solid and doesn't rattle. __________________ Barack Hussein Obama. Why stupid people should not vote.

10-23-2009, 04:38 PM	#7
Dookey WINNAR! Join Date: Oct 2003 Member # 23680 Location: Wichita, KS Posts: 2,565	It shouldn't rattle at all. It is completely sitting on a rubber gasket. If it rattles... you have problems. __________________ All you know about me is what I've sold you!

10-27-2009, 11:28 AM	#9
mean green MN GRN Join Date: Dec 2005 Member # 62908 Location: Greenwood, SC Posts: 43	No probs either. __________________ 98 TJ

10-23-2009, 03:27 PM	#3
SoonerJeepMan Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Member # 104975 Location: Mission, Ks Posts: 79	ok, you talking on the side hinges by the mirrors (if ya have some)?

10-23-2009, 03:57 PM	#4
Schvin wheeler Join Date: Aug 2008 Member # 117513 Location: Lima, OH (for school) Posts: 53	YJ's windshields don't have side bolts, they bolt on on the inside, like the CJ's, just that the holes don't line up perfectly, if I remember correctly.

10-23-2009, 04:05 PM	#5
jeepinTY Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Member # 73191 Location: Groves, Tx (near Beaumont) Posts: 421	He is talking about where the original cage attaches to the top of the windshield. I have seen them with or without but unsure of how it does without. I am hoping to not have to brace mine.

10-27-2009, 10:42 AM	#8
froggytj Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Member # 140187 Location: Idaho Posts: 2	I have a full cage not attatched to windshield and have had no problems with windshield rattle.

11-05-2009, 07:50 AM	#10
ioman2 slow ride Join Date: Mar 2007 Member # 88231 Location: massachusetts Posts: 64	if it rattles, just put a rag or an old glove in there to stop it. __________________ this is where i show you how cool i am....

11-05-2009, 10:54 AM	#11
dirtyboots Atrocious Driving Join Date: Mar 2003 Member # 18123 Location: South of Tucson, AZ Posts: 25	rattlin' OR Fab ties their A pillar cage into the top of the windshield with a tab coming off of the cage. If it bothered you check out the OR Fab and tack in a couple of tabs to support the top of the windshield off of your cage. There are probably other shops that do the same thing.

11-06-2009, 09:10 AM	#13
brownbagg Registered User Join Date: Feb 2000 Member # 102 Location: grand bay al usa Posts: 757	think of all those CJ that did not have roll bar connection, they only had the two hand bolts, they did not rattle.

11-06-2009, 05:45 PM	#14
kasbiker38 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2009 Member # 134106 Posts: 25	my cage is not connected in my yj and i have no rattles.

11-07-2009, 03:37 PM	#16
rubiweeler Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Member # 111725 Location: Redding Kommiefornia Posts: 17	yep it wont rattle, mine isnt connected and doesent rattle

11-07-2009, 06:36 PM	#17
flatlander757 Booger welder. Join Date: Jan 2008 Member # 106845 Location: Virginia Beach, VA Posts: 405	If you have a cage going across right behind the windshield(you have a full cage so this should be the case), what if you take one or two of the footman's loop straps(used for holding the windshield down when you have it folded forward) and tie them around the footman loop on the top/middle of the windshield and around the rollcage? Just put a slight tension on it. Just an idea __________________ Built D60 and D70 sitting in garage waiting to move into their new home under my 03 TJ. Project "Get that Heep done before the wedding!!"

11-08-2009, 10:20 PM	#19
2003_ram Curb Cruncher Join Date: Jan 2009 Member # 127313 Posts: 568	My Granddad runs his TJ with one bolt on the side hinges, it's perfectly fine. It doesn't rattle. Go beat your jeep. __________________ Nobama, I don't mind working for my money, you shouldn't either. Willys Build for whoever is interested --> http://pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=824952 Last edited by 2003_ram; 11-08-2009 at 10:20 PM. Reason: typo

11-09-2009, 02:23 PM	#20
SoonerJeepMan Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Member # 104975 Location: Mission, Ks Posts: 79	thanks folks...took the bolts out...because my frickin driver's side door would not shut...guess my windshield got tweeked sometime...ah well...ended up having to jerry rig a spacer so my door could shut...only 3 bolts to take out to have windshield down!!!

11-09-2009, 03:18 PM	#21
PDK Newbie Join Date: May 2008 Member # 114169 Location: North Alabama Posts: 26	I'd like to hear some thoughts on the safety of only running the side bolts and no top windshield bolts. I've read where a few people strongly discourage losing the cage to top of windshield bolts.

11-09-2009, 03:23 PM	#22
SoonerJeepMan Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Member # 104975 Location: Mission, Ks Posts: 79	I had one guy tell me the windshield is actually (some %, maybe 15%) of your roll bar's strength...but then I have a full tied into the frame so that should be strong enough. Not sure if the strength thing is on a factory set up or not. My reason for running without is purely from a standpoint that IF I want the windshield down when wheeling (to keep from smashing the crap out of it on a tree) then I won't have 6 bolts to take out, now I just have 3, should be 2 on the side but I've got to adjust windshield for the door to shut well. seems like everyone here has no problems running with the windshield tied into the roll bar. just my 2 cents... Last edited by SoonerJeepMan; 11-09-2009 at 03:24 PM.

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