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Old 07-05-2003, 08:01 PM   #1
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Project merkwürdig

My scout is getting a new front and rear.

Bushings are dead, will replace them soon.





The front D44 barely made it out because of the bumpstops.

Due to the spring over conversion and larger tires, the frame will ride close to 12-14" higher than stock
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Old 07-05-2003, 08:16 PM   #2
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You could have pulled the front shackle bolts & pulled the axle out forwards...
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Old 07-05-2003, 11:11 PM   #3
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I would have, but the bolts were rusted to the bushing sleeve. I don't want to burn them until I have replacements. The biggest motivation for the project is needing the rear axle shafts for the travelall...long story.
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Old 07-06-2003, 03:29 AM   #5
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One side installed. Pinion is in nearly the same spot. Pinion half misses the oil pan, but the drum part that sticks out the side will hit. a big hammer and 2x4 would help this.

I used the GI U-bolts and all associated hardware.



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Old 07-06-2003, 10:59 AM   #6
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I recommend different front springs. Front scout springs won't last a day wheeling on rockwells
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Old 07-06-2003, 02:19 PM   #7
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Because of axle wrap?
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Old 07-06-2003, 03:45 PM   #8
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Because of axle wrap?
Because you now have an axle that is 2-3 times the weight of the org axle, that is considerably wider WMS to WMS (more leverage on the springs), and springs that are marginal at best for a stock SOA application.

Don't forget to beef the frame at the spring/shackle mounts or you'll rip them off the frame.
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Old 07-07-2003, 12:38 AM   #9
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That ws one of my fears. While under the thing I had the chance to admire the factory spring mounts...and wonder why it lasted so long.

Anyway, I'm convinced to go coils in the rear. Someone in town has some old bronco springs that I'll throw back there. Thats proably the best idea, since I can adjust ride height, swap springs easily, and have a 90+ degree departure angle.

Do you think its ready for the mall???



All the air has been let out of the rear tires, but its still pretty good. This truck will get used in a lot of mud, country terrain, and some mild rocks.
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Old 07-07-2003, 12:51 AM   #10
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one bump and that body is going to fall off youl be lefy with a frame and rockwells rolling away from you.


why wast such nice axels on such a POS
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Old 07-07-2003, 02:05 AM   #11
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Because this ain't much better.



Plus, I've all ways wondered how a 196 would treat rockwells.
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I would have, but the bolts were rusted to the bushing sleeve. I don't want to burn them until I have replacements. The biggest motivation for the project is needing the rear axle shafts for the travelall...long story.
You need some rear shafts for a travelall so you decided to put rockwells on your Scout
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Pinion half misses the oil pan, but the drum part that sticks out the side will hit.

Stretch the wheelbase!
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Re: Project merkwürdig

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My scout is getting a new front and rear.




The front D44 barely made it out because of the bumpstops.
Sweet Jackstands!
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Old 07-12-2003, 09:59 PM   #15
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Re: Re: Project merkwürdig

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Sweet Jackstands!
There's more where that came from...



Almost ready to pull the rear axle under the thing to mount it. I've got a set of F150 coils that should work for now. I might have to get something softer.



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Old 08-07-2003, 01:02 AM   #16
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My military tires say "Regrooveable" on the side. So, why not? I don't have any neat toys...like a grooving iron, so I just started to think of things that can cut. A sawzall kinda worked, but it was real slow. A Skill Saw, however, worked GREAT! Its a little easier than cutting aluminum.

Note, the pictures below are of a BALD NDT tire.

Step 1: Visit baldie patch


Step 2: Admire a spring pack or two. (front! )


Step 3: You've got to know how far to set the cut depth!!! Look for the cords.


Step 4: Do the sidewall.


Step 5: Do the tread.


Opps...image limit. Continued...
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Old 08-07-2003, 01:03 AM   #17
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Admire the new tire.


I will show the results in worst to best.


Cut the stupid thing when its mounted to a truck (deflated of course). Its real hard to do when your holding the tire with your knees. THis was he hardest to do. Still only took 2-3 minutes to remove 3/8x2x12 of rubber.


Maybe a good Mud and snow version? (not your kind of mud)


Like the Michelin. This one would probably do pretty good.


Who knows...


Flex from the "Who knows" tire. Try to get your NDT to do that with a 150lb person. :thumb3:

These are all "draft" patterns. I'd probably draw the cut lines on it for a good set of tires. How does the mud and snow version look? A WORLD OF DIFFERENCE in flex after. And cheap too.

I have video of the skill saw footage. Anyone interested in a short crazy movie? Tell me what you think, or suggest a different pattern for me to try.
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Old 08-07-2003, 07:26 AM   #18
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total dollars spent=0, correct?

if so i cant say much
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Did you check the tread depth on the tread surface? I believe you can go deeper than 3/8. Actually .375 is still pretty damn good for a baloney skin tire.
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Flex from the "Who knows" tire. Try to get your NDT to do that with a 150lb person. :thumb3:

Some sweet sidewall dry-rot going on there too!
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Glad to see you were wearing safety glasses (edit) wouldn't want you doing anything unsafe

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Did you check the tread depth on the tread surface? I believe you can go deeper than 3/8. Actually .375 is still pretty damn good for a baloney skin tire.
I checked it, and went about 1/8" away from the cords. On a fresh tire, 3/4 - 1" of tread at the center of the tire might be available. Since this was a junk tire (rotten) I just drilled all the way through in several places and checked for the cords.
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Another good example as to why people shouldn't smoke crack. I'm sorry dude but I got to say that is some of the lamest shit I've ever seen.

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Bwahaha funny shit man you must alot ( I can see wher your coming from thow)
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